Is TOGA possible after touchdown of the aircraft

Opening report: Accident when attempting to go around late



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Post from 09.10.2016 - 09:13

dlehmann66

Post from 08.09.2016 - 1:47 pm

Digi flyer

Hello, just very briefly: I always follow the discussions on a wide variety of topics with great interest. I have been working on the flying machine for 27 years, but I never sit in the front of the plane when it is flying. This is precisely why it is very important to me that flight personnel will continue to share opinions here in the future! (Especially with such a topic.) To keep it that way, it doesn't always concern you that way, not everyone can always be right!
Thank you very much!

You're right ;-) Unfortunately, there is not always one "truth".

This case is and remains interesting, precisely because it is not that clear ...

In my opinion, the two up front made two mistakes:

- the approach / landing was not aborted "correctly"
- the landing gear retracted too early

You can get hold of that relatively quickly. Unfortunately, it's not quite as clear-cut how you got into this situation in the first place.

There are still a lot of questions that the investigative commission can still clarify.

I ask myself, for example, why you are even allowed to fly to a reported WS?
Or also, why do you put both hands on the control horn with a G / A or a balked landing / or whatever you want to call it and not leave the thrust lever?
How were the two trained?
Even 15kts tail wind at 48 (!) ° outside temperature seem like a lot to me ...

Perhaps it is also the curse of today's technology that the operator is condemned to routine observation far too often (everything is done by the autopilot ;-)), but should still have the complete and above all correct picture of the overall situation within seconds .

You can be as good as you want, but something will still go wrong that you have real problems keeping it under control ...

Therefore, even if it should be absolutely clear that the pilots in this plane actually made the above-mentioned mistakes, further searches should and must be made to see whether these mistakes have not been made possible or promoted in other places (A / C design, operational processes, etc.)

This contribution was edited on 08.09.2016 13:53.

Post from 07.09.2016 - 17:13

LP

Hello, just very briefly: I am always very keen to follow the discussions on a wide variety of topics. I have been working on the flying machine for 27 years, but I never sit in the front of the plane when it is flying. This is precisely why it is very important to me that flight personnel will continue to share opinions here in the future! (Especially with such a topic.) To keep it that way, it doesn't always concern you that way, not everyone can always be right!
Thank you very much!

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